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Re: Problem with Marquis Reward

Posted By: n1oty
Date: Wednesday, 17 May 2006, at 3:44 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Problem with Marquis Reward (rali)

I've never used such products, so I know very little about them. Frankly, PVC pipe is relatively self-cleaning, so a tub that is in constant operation and chemically treated properly should not experience any build up of anything in the plumbing. Having said that though, I have observed algae and biofilm buildup in the plumbing of jetted bathtubs (which I also work on). This usually occurs when a tub has not been used for a long time inside a warm house, so I can clearly see the possibility of the same thing happening to a hot tub under similar circumstances.

I have always suggested to my customers that they should use the method that Jacuzzi recommended in the owner's manuals from the 80's and 90's, which is to use Cascade or any other brand of low-sudsing automatic dishwasher powder. The dishwasher powder, by being slightly abrasive, scours the pipes. It does a great job on jetted bathtubs, so I know it would do a great job on hot tubs. Obviously, the filter would have to be removed. Low-sudsing detergent is important because pump damage could result from using a high-sudsing product.

Jacuzzi has stopped recommending the use of dishwasher soap for pipe cleaning. This is not due to any problems, but they have since packaged their own version of a pipe cleaning product which they now sell at an obscene profit.

I'm sure the Swirlaway product that doc sells is essentially a pipe scrubber that works similarly to dishwasher powder. The enzyme product you are now trying sounds as if it works differently. I would think you'd have to circulate it around very thoroughly and then let it sit for quite awhile in order to attack any plumbing buildup. I'm not convinced that the enzymes will prove to be superior, but maybe you can give us a first-hand comparison after you've tried it.

John

: I bought some real TSP about six months ago
: when I found it in a paint store. It didn't
: do anywhere's near as good a job on cleaning
: the filters as the Cascade did...it does a
: nice job on painted walls though...
: Funny, John, but I have been opening the
: spines up all around the filters since I
: first starting cleaning them cause that's
: were all the dead bugs hide out...I have
: these very tight filters as opposed to the
: soft loose ones that look like lamp shade
: wannabees...they are about $65 apiece if I
: remember correctly to replace.

: I bought a new product on the advice of a very
: knowledgeable sales man at the Kiefer retail
: store in Waukegan IL a couple of weeks ago
: and am going to try it out this week when I
: drain the water (finally) It's called Spa
: Purge and it claims to restore spa plumbing
: to original condition and remove built up
: organic waste...supposed to be an enzyme
: based product. A company called Natural
: Chemistry in Ct makes it.

: That sounded good to me so I popped for the
: price notwithstanding I still have a half
: bottle of the stuff I got from Doc last year
: that produces enough foam to float Alaska
: ...Swirlaway...Do you know anything about it
: before I try it? You are supposed to put it
: into your tub 24 hours before you plan to
: drain it and just let it sit there and work
: its way through things. FIlters are supposed
: to be out and circulation pump running and
: jets off.

: My big question on this stuff is how on my
: Cataline XL6000 do I keep the circulation
: pump running (I think that's pump 1) but
: keep the jets off? I never turn any jets on,
: (that I am aware I am doing so) just push
: tabs on the control panel for jets 1,2, or 3
: or the blower? Shall I set the filtering to
: go for a 24 hour nonstop time?

: Have you heard of anyone who used it and their
: ideas on it, good, bad or indifferent. This
: guy is very knowledgeable and he said it was
: terrific..so I bought it...

: Gotta tell ya, If there is one thing I really
: could use, it would be a set of clean
: pipes...

Messages In This Thread

• Problem with Marquis Reward
  JREwing -- Monday, 15 May 2006, at 5:10 p.m.
  • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
    n1oty -- Monday, 15 May 2006, at 5:45 p.m.
    • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
      JREwing -- Monday, 15 May 2006, at 5:55 p.m.
      • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
        n1oty -- Monday, 15 May 2006, at 6:31 p.m.
        • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
          rali -- Monday, 15 May 2006, at 6:41 p.m.
          • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
            JREwing -- Monday, 15 May 2006, at 6:59 p.m.
            • When is a filter fit for the garbage can?
              ralinsure -- Monday, 15 May 2006, at 10:25 p.m.
            • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
              n1oty -- Tuesday, 16 May 2006, at 4:24 a.m.
          • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
            n1oty -- Tuesday, 16 May 2006, at 3:49 a.m.
            • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
              rali -- Wednesday, 17 May 2006, at 1:04 a.m.
              • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
                n1oty -- Wednesday, 17 May 2006, at 3:44 a.m.
                • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
                  rali -- Wednesday, 17 May 2006, at 6:32 p.m.
                  • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
                    n1oty -- Thursday, 18 May 2006, at 3:58 a.m.
                    • Re: Problem with Marquis Reward
                      ralinsure -- Thursday, 18 May 2006, at 10:32 p.m.

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